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The admin noticeboard is one way through which users can notify administrators of issues needing administrative attention. While users are welcome to directly contact specific administrators (especially if they are seen to be active), posting here can be an easier and quicker way of ensuring that at least one admin will notice an issue and respond to it promptly. Remember to sign (using four tildes: ~~~~) when posting an issue.

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In case of vandalism, posting about it here is low priority. Revert it first, anyone can do so. If the vandal created a new page, tag it for speedy deletion. Assume good faith and consider leaving a message on that user's talk page to explain the reason. Post here only if the user has made several disruptive edits and/or persists despite a warning. Always avoid a revert war with the vandal; it is far better to wait until an admin has a chance to intervene.

If a user must be reported here, do not create a new section. Instead, add * {{vandal|Example user}} Your concise reason (e.g. vandalised past 4th warning). ~~~~ in the Block requests section.

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Vandalism on old wiki

For some reason, I have noticed vandals appearing in droves on the old Fandom Minecraft wiki. I've been indef-blocking these, but I am wondering if it's worth full-protecting all the pages there, basically freezing them. Amatulic (talk) 06:20, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Not sure if that would be helpful, since these vandals seem to be editing random pages. I contacted SOAP to get them permanently banned across Fandom. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much to do outside of undoing their edits and blocking the vandals. Maybe changing protections to allow just autoconfirmed users on some higher traffic pages might be worth doing anyways though? Hydroquake (talk) 07:01, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Hydroquake (let me know if 'ping' works here; it didn't at Fandom) - Well, I could simply full-protect pages one at a time. But me taking an action like that is pretty drastic and would need community approval, even if it is a deprecated wiki. Amatulic (talk) 07:06, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Amatulic (it worked!) Also ditto on what ManyOursOfFun said. I think protecting that many pages would be too drastic and would cause some issues with Fandom. And technically it's not depreciated (since there will likely still be editors), so I guess it's unappreciated instead :-) Hydroquake (talk) 07:19, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
If I may comment, here's my view. First of all, I think Fandom can construe freezing pages as a violation of rule 3 of their forking policy. But regardless of that, I honestly don't think we should do anything about it. We could revert all their doing or even try banning them in this wiki, but vandalism is inevitable, and I think our effort should be more allocated toward making this wiki successful. The old wiki is now Fandom's responsibility; I believe they're even known to hire people to maintain deprecated wikis, so don't worry about that. I think we should just leave the Fandom wiki be—whether it rot or thrive. ManyOursOfFun (talk) 07:09, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
We aren't allowed to mass-protect pages on the Fandom wiki, so it's down to just reverting and blocking. Though adding some more strict abuse filters might be an option. --MarkusRost (talk) 09:43, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
One thing we as administrators could do is create a global editnotice for anyone attempting to edit, linking to this new wiki and explaining how to migrate an account. That wouldn't violate Fandom's prohibition against redirecting pages to this new wiki, and would help any regulars on the old wiki who haven't been paying attention (based on my watchlists in both places, there are plenty of them). Amatulic (talk) 14:09, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
We added a sitenotice and send a notification to all recent editors, however I don't think Fandoms Forking Policy allows for promoting the fork in an editnotice. They are quite explicit about promoting the fork not being allowed besides the discussion and announcements like the sitenotice. --MarkusRost (talk) 15:40, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
@MarkusRost: Well, before I saw your message just now, I had just finished updating the edit notices. The policy says I'll be desysopped from the fandom wiki in any case. I'll revert them back tomorrow unless someone else does it first.
Mainly what I think is needed is some way to post to everybody's talk page a short notice about migrating accounts, for those (like me) who missed the message and I had to ask as an IP address in the community portal. Amatulic (talk) 16:26, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Update: Well, that was quick. Not only have I been desysopped from Fandom, but all my rights have been removed; I cannot even edit talk pages. Probably this was a result of my changing the edit notices without being aware of the policy. OK then, the vandalism is now their problem. I wash my hands of it. Amatulic (talk) 17:01, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
It may be users trying to goad Fandom into closing the wiki: see this tumblr post that's been circulating.
"the Minecraft wiki has officially migrated off of the Fandom platform to their own site - however, fandom refuses to take down the old wiki bc they're still making massive ad revenue from it. there's only one way to get them to take it down. massive vandalism (this is how blaseball got their fandom wiki taken down back in the day)"
73.59.65.41 23:39, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Well, a more constructive approach is to announce this in various Minecraft subreddits, which I have done.[1] ~Amatulic(talk) 05:17, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
I just noticed that https://newminecraft.com has been added to the spam filter at the Fandom Minecraft Wiki. I tried to edit my talk page (which already directs people to my talk page here) and the edit was blocked by the spam filter due to a "violation of the forking policy". Oh well. ~Amatulic(talk) 03:07, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Deleting page no longer auto-fills deletion reason

When I go to delete a page, it no longer auto-populates the deletion reason field with the reasoning given in the deletion template, and instead gives the default reason of "content was: 'xxx'". I think this might've been broken on Fandom as well but it used to work before, maybe during the Gamepedia days. Does anyone know how to make it work again? –Sonicwavetalk 06:03, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

I couldn't reproduce the issue on one of the pages marked with the template. What page did you try to delete? --AttemptToCallNil (talk) 06:33, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Looks like @magiczocker: accidentally removed the relevant class from Template:Delete during his edits in 2022. I added it back. MarkusRost (talk) 09:19, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Rights changes

There are two uncontroversial rights changes I'd like to request for bureaucrat action:

  • Nixinova requested admin and bureaucrat rights to be restored on Discord and expressed interest in returning to editing
  • JEC6789 expressed no opposition to my suggestion for the Patroller right

This was brought up in Discord but I'm posting it here in case it leads to faster action – could Amatulic or magiczocker grant these rights if you see this? –Sonicwavetalk 23:44, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

@Sonicwave: I have added admin and bureaucrat rights for Nixinova.
I have given the patroller right to JEC6789 ~Amatulic(talk) 01:43, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! It's good to see old community members coming back. –Sonicwavetalk 03:06, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! Glad to be back! Nixinova (talk) 03:46, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Fandom sysadmin rights need to be changed to bureaucrats or admins

On the English Wikipedia, bureaucrats can rename users. I just had a look at Special:RenameUser and found that this right is permitted only for "Sysadmins", which I assume were Fandom admins, not Wiki admins.

This restriction made sense on Fandom, which has a huge user base with accounts shared globally across all wikis. Here on the Minecraft Wiki, we have a smaller userbase. Bureaucrats should be able to rename users if requested.

How do we get this fixed? And what other functions on this new wiki are still usable only by Sysadmins? ~Amatulic(talk) 03:56, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

I believe the sysadmin right is for Weird Gloop, the hosts of the wiki. Adding rename rights to bureaucrats can definitely be brought up for discussion, but I'm not sure if that's something that Weird Gloop wants from a technical standpoint (it's currently disabled due to technical issues with the user database). –Sonicwavetalk 04:08, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Hey! Wikipedia's user system functions quite differently to the user system we employ on this wiki (and that most other wiki hosts do), which makes it easier for them to rename users "locally" without impacting other wikis that they host (such as Wikimedia Commons, or MediaWiki.org). The Minecraft Wiki shares a user database with any other language MC wikis that may eventually fork, and thus renaming a user on this wiki will also rename them across those other wikis too. As a result, it doesn't make a ton of sense for admins or bureaucrats of specific Minecraft Wikis being able to rename users across all of the other languages. However, our process for account renames is pretty straight-forward and just requires contacting us with your request, which we usually act on within a reasonable timeframe. At the moment, we're performing some maintenance work on our user rename functionality, but after that we'll be actioning a ton of requests from users who have contacted us and asked for their username to be changed. In terms of other rights, we're generally happy to provide the admins and bureaucrats of any wiki that we host (including Minecraft) with whatever rights they need, provided that it doesn't have an impact on other wikis we host (for example, a right that allows you to lock the database, since that would impact more than just MC), and have done so regularly when asked. Hope that answers your questions! --Jayden (talk) 04:33, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
@Jayden: Thanks for that information. Bureaucrats on the English Wikipedia, as far as I know, have global renaming rights. At least every bureaucrat I know does (I'm an administrator on the English Wikipedia, not a bureaucrat). They have access to Special:GlobalRenameUser (which doesn't exist here), as well as Special:RenameUser for local renaming, which doesn't get used much. When you get renamed on the English Wikipedia, you also get renamed on Wiktionary, Wikimedia Commons, Wikibooks, Wikiquote, and all the other Wikipedias in all other languages. That's what happened why I got my account renamed (it's no longer 'Amatulic' there, but 'Anachronist'). Renaming requests are either rejected if there is a collision, or the user doesn't get renamed on a project where there would be a collision. It seemed to me that a similar arrangement could exist here too. ~Amatulic(talk) 04:54, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
From my understanding, all renames here are "local" renames, but affect all wikis that are hosted on the same user data base. This wiki will share a user data base with all language Minecraft wikis, so all renames done here will affect all wikis at once. We're currently still figuring out how exactly the language wikis that also want to migrate away from Fandom will move over here; so this is something that should probably be considered after and only with consent of all forked language wikis once that is done.
Personally I don't really see a reason for why English bureaucrats specifically should have the right to globally rename users while other language bureaucrats don't, and alternatively, if all bureaucrats can rename users, there is a risk in the bar of entry for bureaucrat status on smaller language wikis being much lower than it is on the English wiki.
I do think the current situation is fine - Special:Contact for requesting a user name change is always available, and Weird Gloop is trivially contactable by us (unlike Fandom). But, it still might make sense to look into a more user-friendly and more easily discoverable way for users to request user renames or merges in the future (e.g. specific contact forms for these topics specifically, or an on-wiki page explaining the process). | violine1101(talk) 08:19, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Bot right for CrowdingBot624

Can User:CrowdingBot624 be given the bot right? I suggested to CrowdingFaun624 on Discord to look into AWB due to the repetitive nature of changes (sound category additions) they were making, and due to the volume of the edits I thought it'd make sense for them to do it via bot account as well. –Sonicwavetalk 06:02, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

I granted the account bot rights. – Magiczocker (talk) 08:40, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Remove usages of this image, as it's player-made mockup

So I've noticed there are few articles using this image in relation of early Minecraft Indev.https://newminecraft.com/w/File:Indev_20091231-1_Inventory_(Edited).pngHovewer, it's just a player-made mockup of what inventory could look like if Dock design wasn't in game (as it was in that version, with Rana being added before).See entire thread where this image was posted, as it discussed about not having that design.https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-java-edition/discussion/113523-if-docks-design-wasnt-going-to-be-in-the-game#c16--Patbox (talk) 17:51, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

 Deleted. BDJP(t|c) 18:24, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Issues with dark mode

Hello. Not sure if that's the right place but it seemed the most appropriate.

Here are a few issues I found while using dark mode on this wiki, mostly missing dark-theme specific styling:

  1. Special:ApiSandbox
  2. Browsing page versions interactively, e.g. Special:Diff/2331673
  3. Special:RecentChanges and Special:RelatedChanges filters dropdown missing styling, also some UI elements like .mw-rcfilters-ui-filterTagMultiselectWidget-wrapper-content-title have too low contrast
  4. Table on Special:Editcount, e.g. Special:Editcount/MarkusRost
  5. OOUI calendars in date/timestamp filter fields, e.g. on Special:NewFiles
  6. OOUI dropdowns, e.g. on Special:AllPages
  7. "Open in Media Viewer" links have broken on-hover styles, e.g. File:Minecraft_Wiki_header.svg
  8. Many things in VisualEditor missing dark-mode styles, like toolbar dropdowns and some bottons on-hover
  9. WikiEditor "Special characters", "Help" and "Switch editor" menus
  10. WikiEditor "Insert link" and "Insert image" pop-ups

Have a wonderful day :D

2A01:110F:4521:8000:7B4B:C2E4:A326:3D21 07:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Preferences, Appearance, Time zone, the zone popup menu is black-on-black in Dark Mode. Metaed2pc (talk) 20:15, 12 October 2023 (UTC)EDIT: Seems to have been fixed without comment. Metaed2pc (talk) 18:18, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Account merge request

Hello! I am once again requesting that my two accounts User:Legoless and User:McLego are merged. Fandom was never able to facilitate this for some reason. Not sure why the split originally occurred. Legoless (talk) 11:32, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Confirming access. McLego (talk) 11:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
Account merging is currently not available, however you can request for one of your accounts (whichever you want to be the main one) to be renamed over the other account. Please contact the host (Weird Gloop) directly at Special:Contact for this. –Sonicwavetalk 16:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
(A bit related to this discussion) I emailed Weird Gloop to move TheGreatFall to TheGreatSpring (the name of my old account). But they said they cannot merge the two accounts. --TheGreatFall(talk) 11:13, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
As I understand from Wikipedia, an account can't be merged into another account that has made any edits. It's called a username usurpation request there, and they aren't granted if the username to be usurped has edits. What you can do, if you want your old username back but with your current contribution history, is request that your old username be renamed to some random thing, and your current username renamed to your old one. You won't get the old contribution history in your account, however. ~Anachronist(talk) 16:13, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Do I have to email Fandom (the old wiki host) or Weird Gloop? --TheGreatFall(talk) 07:40, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
You should contact Weird Gloop at Special:Contact. --Dianliang233 (talk) 08:34, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
I messed up. I intended them to rename "TheGreatSpring" to "TheGreatWinter" but due to miscommunication on my part, they renamed this account (formerly "TheGreatFall") instead. --TheGreatWinter(talk) 17:50, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Getting math errors on pages that worked on Fandom

I was getting mysterious big red error messages while editing a mathematical expression in a page the other day.

Today I encountered a huge number of these on Redstone_circuits/Memory. The errors are like "Failed to parse (SVG (MathML can be enabled via browser plugin): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/":): {\displaystyle Q}" and appear when I view the page, but not in the preview when I edit it, either using the source editor or the WYSIWYG editor. Although yesterday I was getting errors in preview, even though my LaTeX markup was correct. ~Anachronist(talk) 16:07, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Hey Anachronist! These errors come from Wikimedia's Restbase server being unstable. We're looking to switch over to our own Restbase server soon. If you spot this on a page, then purging the page should fix it (?action=purge). Jayden (talk) 17:31, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
@Jayden: I tried purging the page last time I saw this happen. It didn't help. I just tried purging Redstone circuits/Memory again, cleared my caches, checked on another browser, still getting the page full of errors. ~Anachronist(talk) 16:14, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
Wait, I just did it again, and it cleared up. Strange that it didn't work before. ~Anachronist(talk) 16:15, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

New Page On Updates

You should add a list of all the updates and add links so that if someone want to learn more about an update and they don't remeber the name they can look at the list.(2601:281:CA00:3B20:A917:8C12:4F75:EAB8 19:08, 16 October 2023 (UTC))

This page already exists: Version history. From there you can check the list of all versions for each edition. For example, for Java Edition, that would be Java Edition version history. | violine1101(talk) 19:51, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia shortcut doesn't open a new tab

Jayden: question for you. When linking out to a Wikipedia page, there are three ways.

  • External link example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft - clicking on this opens a new tab
  • Template {{w}} or {{Wikipedia}} as in {{w|Minecraft}} results in this link to Wikipedia: Minecraft - but clicking on this doesn't open in a new tab
  • The template translates the parameters to this wikilink [[wikipedia:Minecraft|Minecraft]] and it results in this link: Minecraft - and that, also, doesn't open in a new tab

Is there any way to make the wikilink or the template open a new tab when clicking on something that navigates away from the Minecraft Wiki? ~Anachronist(talk) 04:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

(I am not a system administrator.) If you're a PC user, you have two methods available to quickly force links to open in new tabs (without using the context menu): 1) Use Ctrl+Click to open any link in a new tab; 2) Click the mouse wheel to open any link in a new tab.
A user script that adds target="_blank" to any link with class="extiw" could also work.
As I understand, by default, MediaWiki doesn't have target="_blank" on any external links. $wgExternalLinkTarget is probably changed on MCW to add the attribute to external links. I could find no corresponding configuration variable for external interwiki links. --AttemptToCallNil (talk) 04:21, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
For the past decade at least, the normal user expectation is for any link that navigates away from a website should open a new tab without the user having to do anything special.
External links already have the target="_blank" attribute on external links, for bare links and citations, anything starting with "http" or "https". Wikipedia also works this way. The problem is the wikilink that allows linking to Wikipedia, it's treated like an internal link but links out to another website. It's a shame that we can't set the target attribute for wikilinks. The "extiw" class already exists on the links to Wikipedia.
One solution might be to rewrite the template to bypass the wikilink system and have it create an external link directly. ~Anachronist(talk) 17:10, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
@AttemptToCallNil:: Well, I figured out how to fix the Template:Wikipedia so that it opens links to Wikipedia in a new tab just like any other external link here. I just used an external link with the passed parameters and class="plainlinks". The new links are indistinguishable from the old links, but they now open in a new tab. The change is active and I've tested it. It works. ~Anachronist(talk) 02:52, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
The change broke a lot of links as it didn't account for titles containing spaces, it has since been reverted. Also I don't see any links on Wikipedia opening in a new tab. Both interwiki as well as external links open in the same browser tab on Wikipedia. And the same behavior we always had here on the Minecraft Wiki, external links opening in a new tab is new since the fork. But with this new behavior for external links, the wikipedia: interwiki should still open in the same tab as the point of interwiki links is to go to trusted external sites while behaving exactly like internal links. Also I personally would prefer interwiki links to say in the same browser tab because it allows me to control myself if I want to open the link in a new tab through one of the methods mentioned by AttemptToCallNil. Having the wiki force new browser tabs on my when clicking links can be quite annoying. Markus Rost head.pngMarkusRost (talk) 20:38, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
Oooh, you're right, I forgot about titles with spaces. Spaces need to be converted to underscores.
Every external link on this wiki opens in a new browser tab. This isn't new. It works that way on Wikipedia, it works that way here, and I could swear it worked like that on Fandom, but I just tested and see that it doesn't. ~Anachronist(talk) 21:35, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Mod Coder Pack

The Mod Coder Pack is available on the old fandon website but not here

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